Dr. Uche Odiatu discusses integrating wellness in dentistry, reducing stress, sleep, and emotional intelligence for holistic patient care.
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About Dr. Uche Odiatu
Dr Odiatu is a Doctor of Dental Medicine. He is a professional member of the ACSM American College of Sports Medicine, a Certified Personal Trainer (National Strength & Conditioning Association) NSCA and the Canadian Association of Fitness Professionals CanFitPro. He is the co-author of the Miracle of Health (c) 2009 John Wiley (hardcover) & (c) 2015 Harper Collins & has lectured in Canada, the USA, the Caribbean, the UK and Europe. An invited guest on over 400 TV and radio shows from ABC 20/20, Canada CTV AM, Breakfast TV to Magic Sunday Drum FM in Texas. This high energy health care professional has done over 450 lectures in seven countries over the last 15 years.
About Alex Nottingham, JD, MBA
Alex is the CEO and Founder of All-Star Dental Academy®. He is a former Tony Robbins top coach and consultant, having worked with companies upwards of $100 million. His passion is to help others create personal wealth and make a positive impact on the people around them. Alex received his Juris Doctor (JD) and Master of Business Administration (MBA) from Florida International University.
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This is Dental All-Stars, where we bring you the best in dentistry on marketing, management, and training. Here’s your host, Alex Nottingham. Welcome to Dental All-Stars. We got Dr. Uchi Odiatu, and he is an author of The Miracle of Health. He is an NSCA-certified personal trainer, professional member of the American College of Sports Medicine. He’s giving 600 lectures and
in seven countries since 2015 on all aspects of integrating wellness and nutrition into the chair side conversation. He’s also a great dentist and you’re in a Canada, right? Yeah. I’m in Toronto. So it’s, you know, it’s actually, believe it or not, it’s the fourth largest city in North America is as Mexico city. There is New York, LA, then Toronto. So I love Toronto. It’s, I would be in Toronto in a split second and just too cold for, for my, uh, bald head. You can see.
So I’m built for Florida. I can dissipate heat. It’s a great thing. I heard that a buddy of mine gave me this question. There was a guy created five people with beautiful heads, perfect heads, the rest he gave hair. I heard that recently, that was adorable. So great to have you Dr. Uchi on the program. We did a prior podcast on the human biome and we had some great tangents. There was a lot of fun in there and we’ll put a link to that podcast in the show notes. And we’re talking about
today the four reasons to integrate wellness into your practice. So tell me about your wellness journey and what’s this up to and how do we get towards this for these four steps or four reasons? Well, thanks Alex. I appreciate the generous introduction and I’m a huge fan of the dental industry. I love dentists and hygienists and the whole team and their desire to be the best.
It’s amazing at conferences, some conferences you’ll stop in from other industries and people are ho humming their way around and they have to go. Dental conferences, people are on fire, running into the exhibit hall and lining up for programs. So I’ve had that same journey. I don’t tire of CE. I’ve been working out since I was 14. I’ve walked on fire at a Robbins event back in the 90s. I’ve meditated with Deepak Chopra in Tampa back in the year 2000. So
I take lots of dental CE and non dental CE. So my take on it is I can only talk wellness if I look the part. I always say, if I look like Elvis and smell like a drive-through, people wouldn’t take my advice very clearly, but I have a flat belly, you can see some squares, I have a vein in my bicep, it’s there. So even in my figs, you can still see the little bit of the bicep range just popping out of the sleeve.
And I don’t say this to impress you because it still impresses me. I didn’t know at this point, I still have a bicep pain, you know? But I think if dentists and hygienists and the whole team, if you look the part as you speak, it expels wellness from your body. And just like when a dentist has nice teeth and you got your natural teeth or you whiten them or you got veneers done, people, patients say, I want teeth like yours. I want your energy. How come when I come in, you have that same now say, hey, I’ll share. I’ll share my latest book. The latest book I’ve read on nutrition is
Food for Life by Tim Spector out of England. And people go, oh my God, Dr. Atchee, I’m gonna buy that right now on Audible. So I love being that guy. I’m a 24 hour day espousing wellness machine. I have hills and valleys, but if you woke up at three o’clock in the morning and said, ouch, tell me the most important vegetable, I would let you know what my feelings were. So- Your energy is off the chart. It’s interesting. There’s a book that I love and I’m doing a little bit of a-
a series on it. I did a lecture on it at our last summit. It’s called The Power of Full Engagement written by sports psychologists that say that it’s not the time that is more time is what is the key to peak performance. It’s more energy. And you get more energy from mastering the physical domain, much of what you talk about, what you do with your microbiome, what you do with your body, mental.
emotional and purpose or spiritual. It was interesting even as I talk about this and listening to your energy in our last podcast, you talked about how you can get happy just thinking about your family in a picture. And that is mental rehearsal, right? You’re doing, you’re training your brain. And this is what elite athletes do. And you know the signs. When they are at peak on visualization, the same neurons fire.
the same body parts fire that if you’re actually doing it, right, so it is you talk about it’s really we’re looking for more energy, and you are full of energy because you have invested in those energy silos. And that’s what I think dentists really all people looking for is how do I have more energy, more life energy, it’s definitely the currency, I think, energy will get you through COVID energy will get you through a recession, energy will get you through a family upheaval.
You have more energy. I think it’s like having a, your ATM, when you’re in the ATM pops out what you have left and it says, you know, 32,000 or 10,000. That’s, you have reserve in your emotional tank. And physical tank is the number one, you know, they’re talking about Abraham Maslow hierarchy. If you’re hungry, tired, dehydrated, nothing else goes on. You don’t feel altruistic when you’re hanging. Yeah, and they said that like with athletes, a, what is it, a physically exhausted athlete,
is a coward athlete. They will not perform well. And they’re all interrelated. If your energy, if your physical energy is sapped, you’re not gonna perform well in any area. And patients can tell. You walk into the operatory, you scratch your head, and in body language, scratching your head means tension relieving. So if I am a doctor with all these years of experience, why am I doing tension relieving activities? Why am I straightening out myself as tension relieving?
I should be feet slightly parted, open expression, hands open. That’s energy. I don’t care what kind of day it is. I shouldn’t be coming apologizing and clearing my throat. So patients are getting that subliminal message at the first look, as you know, they talk about 30 seconds, that first impression. You got to come in looking like you were born to do a crown prep. You were born to do an exam. You were born to take care of someone’s abscess. So that energy is currency. And people just think, ooch. Every time I come in, they go, I haven’t seen you for 18 years.
What the heck are you drinking? I said green tea, dark coffee. I said, do you a little bit of fasting today, giving that a try. But people love energy. It’s like, I think the people that we like to spend the most time with are high energy people. They’re high energy people. The clients that you like to spend the most time with and coach. Oh, of course. And the ones that are like, you know, taking, which is fine. We can’t all be, my mom always said, she’s passed away now, but my mom, not everyone can be that high, but we definitely like.
energy people more. Like, who wouldn’t want to hang out with Jim Carrey? There are some people that don’t like high energy. I wouldn’t pick up my mother, but she’s like, I can’t handle that positivity. It’s too much for me. But in the most part, look, what I’m hearing too, and this is very interesting because we think, there are actually three things that I think about here, right? So, as dentists, they think, okay, I go to dental school, I put in my hours to do my clinical CE, I’ll be a successful dentist in person.
The next step that they think about, they often probably next on their agenda is, gosh, I got to improve on business skills. So that’s where they’ll look for, let’s say, like what we do, Alstradental Academy. And when you look on the surface, they say, OK, we’re doing business skills, phone training, case acceptance, all that. But one thing that we do pride ourselves on, and put a lot of effort in as well, especially when they get to know us more, is you realize that the.
They’re low on energy and not just energy, but what you’re talking about. Mindfulness, eating habits, getting healthy, and you need all of that to be successful. Obviously you need the business skills, you need dentistry skills, but if you’re burnout, we’re seeing that. My president of coaching, his wife, is an expert on burnout. And you can just see, she even says that when you start hearing the, the size, that’s a telltale sign you’re getting there. And I see so many dentists that are
knocking on that door burnout. And so it is critical for those that are listening that you are listening to Uchi and others of these experts and you are making it a priority your physical health, your mental health, very important. You hit it now on the head. I think it’s the last thing we look at. You wait until you’re burnt out, have insomnia or you have sciatica or Crohn’s or whatever condition. Then you think, oh, I’m gonna get my back to health.
Well, you can have those diseases as early as 30. Like, and these dentists now who want to have two offices, eight offices, 10 offices, the limiting factor is their ability to handle loose ends and their energy. Or they put all their energy into their 10 offices and their family gets fumes at the end of the day. Or their friendships get fumes. You know, I have eight offices. You put your phone on your romantic, you’re going out for a date if that’s where you are. You put your, you know, it’s like, oh, I got 10 offices, I got, you know, 200 staff.
As if you’re aware your your tiredness as a war metal and you put your phone up and your date goes, wow, I’m like two hundred and first on his list or her list. So I think energy’s currency, it’s coin. And when you can master it or stoke the fire or or turn it on. But as you said, I think is your mother law or your mother? My mom. But a high energy person can tone it down, but a low energy person can’t turn it up. So I guess. Right.
I can go to a party, if I’m not truly engaged, because for whatever reason I’m not in the mood, I can turn it down and be a good listener for two hours. And someone will say, I can’t believe that guy is a speaker, he looks so quiet. Who’s just collecting stories for his next keynote? Be careful what you tell him. So I’ll chill out and be quiet and just be a great listener. Hey, tell me more. What’s going on with that? What’s the one big, what’s your hard driving for? So I don’t mind, I can tune it down, but not many low energy people can turn it up.
You know, like Steven Wright, that comedian from the nineties, I remember Steven Wright, he was like, he couldn’t turn it up. Like, but Jim Carrey can turn it down. You know, people couldn’t turn it down. Sure. So tell me about superfoods. Superfoods are good. I’m a fan of superfoods. However, if you looked at the 4,100 ingredients in an apple beyond, you know, pectin and vitamin C, there’s 4,100. Now we can break down,
by micro assay, there’s actually 4,100 enzymes and fibrous and minerals and vitamins in an apple. And if I didn’t tell you it was an apple and I just listed what it does, fiber dows the flames of inflammation. The apple seed and the annals of psychology, annals of oncology showing that two apples a day helps you lessen the chance of breast cancer. Should I eat the seed?
No, no, not necessarily. The caveman did. Your caveman, Alex, would. I gave my dog the seed. You don’t eat the seed. But if I just listed the benefits of an apple without telling you what it was, you go, ooch, is that a superfood? It’s an apple. Wow, really? You can break down anything and make it a superfood. So it’s not just the acai berry. If you and I never ate one in our lives, it would still be healthy. And that’s why I’ve heard some experts come on and some of us talk about the blue zones. And they said, what’s the one way to get to 100?
And this cardiologist author, I’m not going to say his name, said the number one way to become a centenarian is to eat olive oil. I’m like, it’s important, but it’s not the only thing. Like anytime an expert says the one thing, you’re always proven wrong. You’re always proven. So the reason why I get invited back to lecture is because I don’t annoy anyone. I’ll say one of the best foods to weigh, one of the best ways to get to a hundred. There’s many ways to get to a hundred. One of the best. So, but when, when experts say.
the number one exercise you need for chest, the number one exercise you need to stop heart disease. You’re always wrong. Oh, it’s the bench press and the squat, baby. And the pull-up. You’re always proven wrong like that. Olive oil. Yeah. I don’t know, how about olive oil? If I didn’t have olive oil. It’s olive oil and it’s combined with, what is that acid that we like? You mentioned it last time. Ah, what is it? It eludes me. The vinegar. Oh, balsamic vinegar. No, not balsamic.
The crazy one. Apple cider vinegar? Yeah, put all that together. I’m just teasing. Go ahead. Oh, for sure. I don’t know, if I didn’t eat certain foods again, it wouldn’t matter, because there’s a thousand kinds of potatoes. There’s a hundred species of apple. There’s seven kinds of mushroom. And every dentist, because we overthink, I always call it intellectual disease. They overthink. They always go, I’ll be speaking for six hours. They’ll come up, talk to you, I love your program. What’s the best mushroom I can have? I’m like, you missed my whole concept.
variety. No, but if there’s one mushroom I could eat, it’s like saying if there’s one burr I could use, what burr do I need? Smart people ask the dumbest questions. What’s the number one exercise I need to do? What’s the one thing that’s got to 100? There’s no one way to have it. Well, you know what’s interesting? We talk about smart people and then what kind of came to me and I’ve been working a lot on this with one of my coaches that coaches me is we have this and it can be metaphorical, but there is some science behind it is
the right brain and left brain. And some people, it’s reversed. But the idea is symbolically, the left brain represents our analytical skills and so on. And we are very, dentists are very skilled with that. I’m a lawyer, MBA, grew up with a dentist. I’ve developed my intellect quite a bit. And also, I learned that it was a great defense mechanism. I can spend time in my head using the intellect to avoid the emotion.
So emotion will come more from the right side of the brain, more creativity, emotion, feeling. And that’s something to be a co-submitted. So what happens is the reason why these smart people are asking these questions is myself as one of them left brain. OK, I mean, left smart is it’s it’s too much of again, stuck on the logic. You’re missing the point of what you’re saying. Instead of saying what I think Uchi said, we have to say what I felt he said.
What did I feel is going on? And then you get the sense, the gestalt, we can call it of it, right? As a gestalt, what’s the what’s the crutch of what you’re saying? Moderation, variety. Well, you and I, either the male brain or obviously both men talking here. But if as dentists or as smart people, we get lots of award for our logic, lots of award for memorizing facts and achievements. But all the joy comes from emotion. Like if you’re over analytical as a spouse.
You’re not a fun guy to be around. When your for real says, dad, what do you think of my drawing? Let me take a look at my loops on. You’ve missed out some shading there Sage. So we’re annoying. I remember, and I’m no longer, my wife and I no longer are married, but during our marriage counseling, the counselor said, ouch, you get rewarded so much from your brain. You think too much. You spend all your time in your head. You get rewarded, you get paid for being in your head. People hear you lecture and you’re in your head, but she goes in a marriage.
you gotta go from the heart. It’s true. I know I said, did you have a book on that? I said, I was like, You have a book on that, that’s a good one. So anyway, so, That’s a good one. So anyway, so now we’re no longer together, but I’ve realized now, you know, letting it go, thanks for all the marriage gave me, but letting go now, I’ve opened up my heart a lot more. Like in my new relationships, in my new relationship, I go by heart, all of a sudden I’m like, oh my God, this is where,
a girl or a girlfriend wants you to be in the heart. They want to hear the analyzing, logical, overthinking side. Want to know how you feel and hey, I really feel good about this. I feel good about it. What do you feel like going? That’s being a complete human being is you’ve got to get in touch with your emotion. And like you said, often dentists are conditioned and rewarded not to. And patients, and again, this goes back to your premise earlier, patients pick up on
your energy. And there’s this concept I know you’re familiar with, Harvard studies, emotional intelligence. It’s a greater predictor of success than intelligence. The dentists that do amazing, put aside the clinical, are the ones that can relate to people. You feel good around them. They care about you. They’re intuitive. They are connected. And that’s what we have to develop. We have to put in just as much time into not only business,
but also our physical and mental and emotional capabilities because that helps us, that’s part of emotional intelligence, self-regulation, that helps us work with people. Team, which is the bane of most dentists’ existence is working with team and your patients. And you master it and you start saying, I look forward to my team and I look forward to my patients. And when there’s a problem, it’s not a problem, it’s an opportunity for growth and openness.
So tell me, I have a few notes here as well about, in terms of like action steps, in terms of in the practice of sleep apnea, about what we need to know about that, and sedentary patients on oral health. So versus athletic ones. Sleep only because you’re pressed on emotional intelligence and how, there’s a lot of homeless people, they can even have high IQs, but if they have good emotional intelligence, they’ll no longer be homeless.
They say it. Richard Branson has lots of emotional intelligence. The more emotional intelligent you are, the more successful you are in relationships, the more successful you are presenting what you do, you’re more convincing, you’re better in sales, you’re a better friend, you’re better hanging out with someone. Who wants to hang out with Sheldon? If you were stuck in an elevator for 20 hours, Sheldon wouldn’t be the guy you wanted to hang out with unless he’s the guy that can help you get out. But for 20 hours, a Sheldon would drive you crazy. I want to go up to someone who makes me laugh and forget that I’m stuck in an elevator. But guess what emotional intelligence?
is most nurtured or stoked when we’re sleeping. So, emotions are processed during REM sleep. So, sleep research have said during REM, rapid eye movement sleep, which I said needs about 100 minutes a night, emotions are processed. You dilute or you process all the stories of the day emotionally. You tag teaming and tagging with past wisdom and teachings, and the brain can
And that only happens during dreaming. And that’s why alcohol is so bad for bed because alcohol, you dream less. That’s why shift workers are often fly off the handle. That’s why alcoholics often fly off the handle. That’s why people who don’t sleep well have poor memories because also what happens during REM sleep is your body processes memory. So people often think dreaming is, oh, I don’t know if I dream. Well, everyone dreams. They say on average you’ll dream about 100 minutes a night, but you need to dream 100 minutes, 85 to 100, just to have good emotional processing and good memory.
So if 70% of North Americans, 70% of patients, 70% of dentists aren’t getting good sleep, guess what? Fly off the handle, triggered, poor memory, can’t forget where they put their loops, all those things. So learning more about sleep is important. A patient falls asleep during a root canal, hey, sleep debt. You know, I like what you said here because instead of saying, oh, you have sleep apnea, we have to treat you. It’s like, here’s the importance of sleep. Right?
besides the breathing issues, yes, but sleep, getting good sleep, which is our outcome, yes, there’s a physiological component as well, but there are also a mental component, a happiness component, a functional component, that sleep is important. And what I’m hearing from you too is this was a nice thing that can happen is dentists that are listening to this podcast and following Uchi is you’re gonna see how can I get better myself because I have to be an example, and then also bring it
to the patients as a part of the holistic treating of a person, okay? Versus, I do see some people, they get a little wacky, on this one thing and I do this and you have to do that and you’re pushing supplements. I’m gonna make an appliance for you. And you’re like, oh, here it is. The size of inner tube. You’re missing the point. People are there. My uncle, my whole family are doctors, doctors and dentists. I’m the black sheep, I’m the lawyer and MBA. But.
My uncle, who is my coach as well, I learned a lot from him. And he always said, he said, my whole goal when I treat a patient is I want them to walk out with more energy than they came in with. Not only does he, he’s a physician, but he treats not only their body, but also their mind. He’ll give them some breathing techniques and meditation, treating the individual as a whole. And so I think that’s very important.
as dentists are listening in terms of action, is start to integrate this into your life and sharing with your patients, making them better. It’s not just going to the dentist. It’s more energy, more help. Well, we’re treatment-focused, right? We’re solution-focused. It’s like men are so annoying to women because if a woman will talk about their day and their problems, men want to solve the problem. You know, men at bars want to solve the problem. Hey, this is what you got to do. We’re going to tell your dentist, you want to raise, and then we’re going to get a new office.
and I just want to listen to me. I just need someone to listen. You’re like, no, no, we got to solve this problem right now. We’re going to phone that dentist. Where’s it? So that’s the emotional intelligence part of it. But a big part of that is though, is we don’t, solving is not what the patient wants. Listen, have your solution tied into what they want most. I got a patient who’s losing testosterone, soft around the belly, skinny arms, skinny legs, no mojo. He’s not sleeping well. He snores.
doesn’t want to get a sleep study. But if I can tie in growth hormone, testosterone to his poor sleep, now he’s interested. So I’d have more growth hormone, testosterone if I went to go into bed on time and got good sleep. I’m gonna book my sleep, that’s my book, my sleep study. And that’s part of emotional intelligence is we have to, when we’re talking with patients or anybody, we have to know where they’re at. Like with Uchi and me, we can go to the deep end. We’re having a lot of fun. But some people don’t speak this language and we have to, like you said,
We have to bring it down, not just energy, but also to their world view. Some people aren’t going to go for supplements or something, but you have to listen. But it’s nice when a doctor, one of the biggest issues I see with all doctors, dentists and others, is that this is what I do. Even if I’m Perry Donnes, I only do this. I’m not aware of anything else in the universe. Now, also as a dentist, you don’t want to be, I do everything. I also do both. You could. But the situation is.
You do what you do, you do it well, but it’s good to know about other things so that you can have a holistic, you’re working with a person, a human being. Like you mentioned on the last episode about doctors just flooding vulnerable patients with antibiotics and killing their biome and their ability to fight off issues. And not being aware that yes, you should take a probiotic or other activities that counteract the toxins you’re taking in. Like, duh, be aware of it.
You know, you’ll go to a dentist and say, I’m not a nutritionist, I don’t know. How difficult is this? You know, take a few courses with you. Just get a general understanding. So like you said, at least you can speak, I don’t know, but I’m aware of this, check it out. So that you- Or you can say, or you can literally say just, I’m giving you clindamycin, which is a very well-known antibiotic that messes with the biome. So it’s one of the biggest antibiotics that cause C. difficile overgrowth. If you don’t know about probiotics, you can say, I read about probiotics and I just heard online, it may not be needed.
Talk to your pharmacist, the best way to stabilize your gut during the clindamycin. Now you come across like a very humble, big, commanding doctor saying talk to the pharmacist. And they will say, a pharmacist will say, if a dentist doesn’t mention how to combat stomach distress with an antibiotic, the pharmacist will say, you don’t need a probiotic, just have yogurt, plain yogurt every day for the next seven days.
or kefir or kefir. So there’s other things other than probiotics. But just to admit that this might cause some distress, and you can tell a patient, almost half of the circulating metabolites in your body or they need a good stomach balance, myomoxicillin might upset. So you ask the pharmacist, what’s the best for you so you can have the least amount of stomach distress? Now the patient goes, wow, I’ve been taking antibiotics for 30 years and no doctor has ever told me, you know what?
I’m gonna tell my sister to come to you because my sister’s a dentist, all she wants to do is veneers. She never talks about total body health. I’m like, yeah, integrative wellness is so attractive. Patients love being looked at from head to toe. Paranormal, all I do is CGT or guided therapy. All I do is put implants in. How about just chewing function so I could digest and absorb nutrients better and slow down the aging process? And that’s how you stand out when you, because look, everybody’s doing this level.
You have to do something different to stand out. And again, treating people as individuals, and I like what you said, without ego, without that you or no at all, just you may wanna consider this. And when you do catch something, oh my God. Because if you do a decent job, they may come back, but they’re not gonna write reviews, they’re not gonna refer. But if you stand out and do something outside the box, that really stands out for them. Let me ask you this, Uch, before we wrap this up, the stress.
Give me some tips on how can we reduce stress for ourselves and our patients? Any ideas or thoughts? Great question. This post pandemic world, it’s just gonna last a decade or more. I myself thought we’d get back to normal in seven days. One good long weekend, and I thought it’d be back to pre pandemic, but it’s not that way. So stress has a bad reputation because you and I need stress even to get up in the morning. Cortisol moves up and down naturally in the day cycles to help us get up in the morning.
It also goes down to certain points to help us quieten down and replenish. But many of us try and avoid stress completely. But this whole, whole plunge is, is getting stressed. Fasting is, is stressful to your body. Exercising is a stress to your body. Learning a new language is a stress. Cooking with a different style of cooking, Korean food is a stress to your cooking ability. So all stress isn’t bad, but too much newness.
too many things, having four personal trainers, opening up your 20th office and not delegating because you want to fix everyone as a dentist. Then now you’re going to have adrenal fatigue. The body is going to be in chronically inflamed, accelerated aging, poor sleep, fat deposition around the midsection, skinny legs, low testosterone, erectile dysfunction if you’re a male dentist, okay. So all these things happen with too much stress. So there’s many different things to look at balancing stress. One is
is to get to bed on time. The body, almost it, it’s, uh, you process emotion at nighttime. So getting seven to nine hours is good to process emotion. The breath, as I would say, in a nutshell, changing how you breathe is the easiest way to go from sympathetic dominance to parasympathetic. So anyone who’s parasympathetic in their conversation or in their treatment, it has to, can rest and look back at past wisdom in the middle of a debate or discussion or an argument. People who are sympathetically dominant, all they can do is attack like a bull.
And y’all know bulls can be, you can move out of the way and the bull goes by. But you want to be that guy that can wax and wane, whether it’s in the court of law, or as you said, you’ve got that law background, is to have your parasympathetic nervous system firing, which means you get out of the dominant sympathetic one and inhale right away, you harmonize the vagus nerve and you go to parasympathetic. And now not only do you look smarter and you look like you’re listening, you have access to a memory or a point you’re trying to make or something in the debate.
Inhaling through the nose is the easiest way to diffuse a tyrannical moment. Or looking like an idiot on a closed eye television camera at Walmart, trying to get your money back, you know? You know what? I know I don’t have the receipt and I just get a store credit. Oh, we can do that instead of fighting her. Cause I’m a doctor of dental surgery. You know, you know who I am. I own 72 offices. And breathing through the belly. Yeah, breathing.
massages, the vagus nerve. So, hard to do in the beginning, hard to do, but anything hard to do could be worth doing if it brings you to another level of enlightenment or engagement. Sure. Good questions. And these are all, like I said, there’s a lot we covered and there’s a lot more out there. And it’s just little by little, it’s incremental improvement. And it’s interesting, the compound effect that you can do damage to your body.
or healing to your body little by little. And often you don’t see it, like we talked about too before, until you have a disease, disease that occurs. And the opposite is true, you can heal, but it’s basically, I love habits. If you do, and our mind loves habits. It loves just, and you start to install them and do it little by little over and over and over again. It’s amazing the effects that can occur. So Dr. Uchi, thank you so much for being
on the podcast. And let me just put, as I mentioned, there’s a few resources. Let’s say I can remember these. We have Instagram, we’ll put a link there and you can direct message, Uji. We also have your website for any conferences or where you’re speaking to interact with you. I know you have some retreats coming up. They can do that. Say hello to you at the conference. We’ll put all those ways to find you. I know you wanna give people your numbers and all that. You can do that at your own time. Again, like I said, my people will go after you. You’re so fun. And…
Yeah, just thank you so much being on the program. Yeah, love sharing the great questions Alex that you inspired and you brought a better part of Gucci out. So thank you for your energy yourself. What an honor. Well, thank you everybody for listening. And remember to follow us on Apple podcast, Spotify and YouTube. Get the episodes as they are released and share with your friends. Until next time, go out there and be an all star
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